BARCODES: || | |||| | ||| | | |||| || ||

Working for yourself or for a publisher, chat about the business side here.

BARCODES: || | |||| | ||| | | |||| || ||

Postby bluetoaster on Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:44 pm

Somewhere on Diamond's website, it mentions that they may want comics to be supplied with barcodes.

Is this firmly the case - and if so, whats the best way to go about it?

Bobby.N

.
User avatar
bluetoaster
Master of Time
 
Posts: 933
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:22 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Postby practicecactus on Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:54 pm

I would just use one from a chip packet or something..
Fuck em.
User avatar
practicecactus
Destroyer of Worlds
 
Posts: 1501
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:27 pm
Location: Gold Coast

Postby Troy Kealley on Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:07 pm

Woo one I can answer!

OK when you apply for a ISBN in Australia http://www.thorpe.com.au/isbn/index.htm you have the option of ordering a barcode with it (it costed around $50 from memory). It would certainly make prospective stockists more receptive to the comic so I think it's worth it.

If you already have an ISBN then I'm pretty sure you just need to convert that number into a barcode - I believe you can find programs on the internet to do this for you - our development guys have something they use to create barcodes so if you like I'll find out what they use.

BTW the site also has lots of other useful info on self publishing.

And there's always Steve's option!!
Troy Kealley
_________________
Image
http://comikaze24.com

My scribblings:
http://www.comicspace.com/radiotak/
User avatar
Troy Kealley
Robot Overlord!
 
Posts: 1444
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:10 am
Location: Perth

Postby practicecactus on Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:29 am

Troy Kealley wrote:And there's always Steve's option!!

Shhhh..you're using my real name, what are you nuts?..I'm sure I got enemies on this forum dude..
User avatar
practicecactus
Destroyer of Worlds
 
Posts: 1501
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:27 pm
Location: Gold Coast

Postby paulpunisher on Fri Sep 09, 2005 6:53 am

Yeah,I had a graphics job for a garden supply company which required me to design and create product labels. The company provided me with all these friggin barcode numbers so I used a site on the net and it was pretty good. I'm away from my home computer at the moment but when I get access to it I'll post the web address for the barcode generator site. It's free and you have heaps of options as to how to display your barcode- thick, thin, with number at bottom, without numbers, 100 dpi, 300 dpi... then you click create and the barcode appears as an image which you right-click and save it to your machine. Monkeys could do it.

Alternatively you could do what I did and search google for free barcode generator pages.
Chuck Norris does not leave messages. Chuck Norris leaves warnings.
User avatar
paulpunisher
Hero
 
Posts: 44
Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:48 pm
Location: Sydney- Killin' Scum

Postby bluetoaster on Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:39 am

So are these 'free' barcodes legitimate to use -
Or do i need to pay (as in get an ISBN, etc)?

Are there limitations on the free ones, or is it really for stores to be able to scan/keep track of your comic.

Bobby.

.
User avatar
bluetoaster
Master of Time
 
Posts: 933
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:22 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Bar codes

Postby jpaulos on Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:48 am

My experience with barcodes is that the distributor is insisting you do it merely as a contractual formality and the retailer will slap their own price info on it anyway.
User avatar
jpaulos
Destroyer of Worlds
 
Posts: 1350
Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:41 pm
Location: Erskineville, Sydney

Postby Egofreaky on Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:38 am

The only problem with free barcode site is is it the right one?

When looking for barcode stuff myself, I found that there are almost 30 different types of barcode. Books use UPC or EAN code, and there are about 3 of each.
I actually printed out our ISSN in most of those formats and took it to Borders to scan them. We ended up going with the EAN-13 barcode because it scanned without a problem, and allowed extra digits for volume and issue numbers, which is something you'll seriously want to consider if you're doing an ongoing comic.

Here are some links:
Barcode Generator Software
Barcode Font: I'm not sure which Barcode type this font is. I think it's 'Code39'
Online Barcode Generator: This one only outputs as a 96dpi GIF. You're gonnah ave to play around in Illustrator to get something that's printable. Take it to a shop to make sure it scans before you use it though.
[/url]
User avatar
Egofreaky
Evil Genius!
 
Posts: 1603
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:21 am
Location: Melbourne

Postby bluetoaster on Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:09 pm

thanks guys.

So can you really enter any digits that you want for your own records ( like 000001- for the first issue, lets say) - then convert it to barcode format... or does it 'have' to be something legal (like the ISSN that EgoFreaky mentioned.)

My lazer printer can print: EAN, UPC-A, UPC-E, Code39, Code128, etc
so if I can do it myself - it would save me a lot of mucking about.


Bobby.N


.
User avatar
bluetoaster
Master of Time
 
Posts: 933
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:22 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Postby Egofreaky on Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:47 pm

If you're going to put it on the cover of the book, it should be an ISSN or ISBN based barcode.
Putting any old number in may make it clash with an existing product, which is going to cause serious problems if you end up getting the book into a place like Borders.
User avatar
Egofreaky
Evil Genius!
 
Posts: 1603
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:21 am
Location: Melbourne

Postby Mopy on Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:12 pm

Those sites for do it yourself barcodes are very useful - thanks muchly.

According to what I've been able to find out about barcodes in New Zealand you have to join some bogus business association:

http://www.gs1nz.org/

and it appears the minimum membership fee (turnover $0 - $1 million) is $299: S#%$ me with a Ames lettering guide!
User avatar
Mopy
Hero
 
Posts: 29
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:46 pm
Location: Exeter, UK

Postby azahru on Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:39 am

National Library of Australia gives out free ISSNs

To quote from a friend

"If you want an
ISSN your publication has to be a serial, ie: you have to "intend to
keep publishing issues indefinitely" and have some sort of numbering
system eg. Vol 1. A very good example for literature would be the
"Year's Best Fantasy & Horror" collections (ed. By Ellen Datlow). I
have a sneaky suspision that for an ISSN you have to publish at least
annually but I could be wrong..."
User avatar
azahru
Science Hero
 
Posts: 795
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:21 am
Location: Canberra

Postby Mopy on Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:52 am

National Library of New Zealand also give out the ISBN/ISSN"S free as well.

http://www.natlib.govt.nz/en/services/5isbnissn.html

As with the Australian Library, they have to be convinced that you intend to continue regular publishing for an ISSN; they turned down our anthology first time.
User avatar
Mopy
Hero
 
Posts: 29
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:46 pm
Location: Exeter, UK

Postby azahru on Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:55 am

Australian National Library doesn't do ISBNs anymore! I don't know why.
User avatar
azahru
Science Hero
 
Posts: 795
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:21 am
Location: Canberra

Postby BMB on Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:02 am

Can you get the printers to do it as part of their service? ( If you dont have an ISSN number ) just a simple barcode for price only?
User avatar
BMB
Science Hero
 
Posts: 775
Joined: Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:06 pm

Next

Return to The Business

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

cron