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Whinge- Australian comics where are you?

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Postby Anomic on Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:35 pm

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Its time to jump over the is/ought divide :)
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Postby Egofreaky on Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:49 pm

Just thought, there's the problem that some shops don't put all their stock on the shelf at a time, due to capcity. For instance, I'm pretty certain Minotaur purchases more than 3 copies of most Australian titles, but with the exception of Phospherescent stuff, I never see more than 3 copies on the shelf.

Darren: It's possible. My ancedotal evidence comes from about 18 months ago, granted. The guys behind the desk and I got into an argument about certain comics, when I said so many were basically becoming soft-porn for guys that are too socially awkward to get a Penthouse.
The management I don't like cause they said OzTAKU would never sell (verbatim: "Ha! Most of your comics in here don't even have backgrounds!").... Grrr :(
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Postby Gary Lau on Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:14 pm

Maggie,

While I only get to drop by my friendly neighbourhood comic book store around once a month these days, I'll try my best to support this initiative (both as a self-publisher and comic books buyer) you've put your time and effort setting this up.

everyone,

Statistically and from a data collection point of view, I think it will be very interesting to see how this database will be perceived and utiltised once it's "live." I might be wrong in assuming this but I think some might start to get competitive when they start seeing their book figures compared to others. Which can be good or bad.

My reluctance to respond to this thread originally was also the anonymity with regards to the internet. It might be just me, but I find it a bit hard to trust a "nickname" let alone someone I've never met face to face before with what is "my business". And dealing with different retailers requires different tact a lot of times. I also believe it's ultimately the publisher's responsibility to keep stores up to stock. So while I can't imagine someone from this forum actually approaching any of the retailers about their lack of a certain title on this database list (or is this the point?), if I was a retailer I'd be a bit annoyed that it's not the publisher him/herself approaching them about the stock.

I hope I'm making sense. It's not like I don't want to be always stocked at every comic book retailer around Australia (I still can't get it in WA, NT or Tassie and I never really know which store wants to stock more issues of what). I do want all these and I'd really appreciate it if this community effort actually works and becomes successful. It's just that I have my hesitations.

Comics R Us are on Bourke St. Melbourne. For me, both Mark and Mitch from that store have been very supportive of my work from the get go, so I do not share the same opinion as Avi on them. However, it might be stressed that all dealings regarding stock is only with the Prahran/Windsor Comics R Us, where the owners work. In fact, while I bring up this point, almost ALL the local comic book retailers, you have to speak to a manager of some form or rather if you wanted to deal about stocking/selling Aussie comics at their store, and not just any clerk working at the time (again, this is if all this is intended for some to go into a retailer and actually approach said retailer about the stock numbers).

Sales for local products, to my limited knowledge, are never high enough for a retailer to physically approach creator/publisher to constantly or proactively restock. I'd love to see this happen one day (to anyone of us).
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Postby Darren Close on Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:21 pm

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Postby Anomic on Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:00 pm

Darren, the problem with cynicism as a philosophy is that (as suggested previously in the tread) it operates on an ought basis (usually based in a monotheistic religion). The idealist starts out with the notion that things ought be this way, when that idealism fails, as it has to, as it collides with the world as it is, there is a dissonance - the idealist retreats to cynicism. Cynicism is a self-defeating position as it is both failed idealism and at the same time an unwillingness to grapple with the world as it is. The ability for agency/action is turned inward becoming the equivalent of a dark malignant fart. So what if things fall apart? As well know psychologist asked me last year ???what is the purpose of the Melbourne grand-prix???? I thought it was to win, sell cars, make money, and annoy residents. His answer ??? the purpose was to break the cars, to take the car as far as it could go and find out where things go wrong under pressure, and in doing so make a better car.

If the model proposed goes wrong ??? can we learn from that? (I hope so) The question is: how can we as a collective of interested persons make something that works? Not that this model (or any model) is an all or nothing proposition.
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